Dear Ron and All,
Great idea. But, again, how do we LPSF members find the time and
energy to implement these good suggestions? For example, I will be
attending today's meeting full of guilt and recriminations for
bothering Rob to give me a password to put up my "what is the LPSF"
bla bla on the website, and have been so busy that I did not find time
to do it. It almost seems that we (LPSF volunteers) need some sort of
regular work meeting to get things done?
Marcy
Dear Rob and All Others;
Marcy wrote in part:
So your suggestion gave me another
idea: how about fashioning on our
LPSF website a column where folks
like me could tell of their first hand
experiences with socialism or fascism
as related to some aspect of San Francisco
politics. Just a thought.
A topic for discussion as to including a
"memoirs" section on the LPSF web
site for such personal anecdotes as
related to Libertarianism is not a bad
idea.
As all of us have had a variety
of personal experiences and relating
them in relation to the Libertarian
experience and philosophy and principles
would be noteworthy and useful to us all.
It would of course not have to be
specifically related to socialism or fascism
but related to all political categories.
The general requirements could be
stating a personal experience a
Libertarian philosophy or principle
relating to the experience and what
was learned from the experience
and so on.
The article would be submitted to LPSF
web site master Rob for review and
editing then publishing.
What the title could be for the
section is a good guess right now.
Ron Getty - SF Libertarian
Hostis res Publica
Morte ai Tiranni
Dum Spiro, Pugno
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From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@...>
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:56:13 AM
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Fwd: Cunningham Calls for Media Summit
Dear Michael,
Thank you for your interest in the "expatriate" experience! Don't get
me started, or I would end up ranting about this subject all the time!
However, I feel that talking about it to my fellow libertarians is
preaching to the converted. So your suggestion gave me another idea:
how about fashioning on our LPSF website a column where folks like me
could tell of their first hand experiences with socialism or fascism
as related to some aspect of San Francisco politics. Just a thought.
Marcy
>
> Dear Marcy,
>
> Yours is a fascinating, first-hand report, all too brief!
>
> I would love to have an event with you speaking about what you
> experienced then--your memories, your feelings, the Govt, the press,
> the conditions as they changed around you, the variety of
reactions of
> others.
>
> Perhaps we could do it as an agenda item, over a meal, etc.?
>
> Warm regards, Michael
>
> From: "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@>
> To: <lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:51 PM
> Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Fwd: Cunningham Calls for Media Summit
>
>
> > Yep. I can vouch for the Argentine comparison. I was raised there
> > during Peron's last stand (oy, that was such a looong time ago!).
> > And
> > The People loved the pair (especially the unbelievable
> > Evita/Madonna),
> > and loved the freebies, until it all came crashing down about their
> > heads and shoulders. Nobody seemed to remember as the spiral took
> > everyone down that in the old days there was healthy debate in the
> > press (La Prensa got mowed down first thing), allowing for insight
> > into what may have been going on. Have you supported YOUR favorite
> > news outlet lately?
> >
> > Marcy
> >
> >>
> >> And you are correct in saying this is far from
> >> perfect...........and in
> >> saying to you touch on another thousand relevant topics
> >>
> >> but my point is this
> >>
> >> neither Eric nor Nobama should be the magic bureaucrat
> >>
> >> I heard an analogy today that I liked
> >>
> >> Argentina in the 20's was wealthy and powerful until Juan Peron and
> > Madonna
> >> took power, and spend billions of stolen dollars on populist
causes
> >> and
> >> power grabs................in a decade the country was broke and
> >> has
> > never
> >> recovered
> >>
> >> the Nobama of the 20's
> >>
> >>
> >> > Under our present order the bureaucrat who decides is the
> >> > investment
> >> > bankers who have bankrolled Murdoch with counterfeit fractional
> >> > reserve money for decades. The insiders got easy access to the
> >> > easy
> >> > money. Murdoch was the ultimate media insider. A competitive free
> >> > market financial system may not have have helped to concetrate
> >> > power
> >> > in so few hands.
> >> >
> >> > > Sooooo
> >> > >
> >> > > Eric, who is the magic bureaucrat who gets to decide what is
> >> > > fair,
> >> > > what exactly accountability means..?
> >> > >
> >> > > You..? Nobama....?
> >> > >
> >> > > Get a Grip...
> >> > >
> >> > > Marge:
> >> > >
> >> > > No one is suggesting censorship, but accountability is what is
> >> > > needed. Newscorp, for example, owns outright 40% of the media
> >> > > (and
> >> > > has interests in others. It's not even an American-owned
> >> > > company.
> >> > >
> >> > > Most of these media outlets are not providing information,
> >> > > they're
> >> > > pushing propaganda and damaging people, industries, and causes
> >> > > without consequences.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>,
> >> > "r. m. parkhurst"
> >> > > <rmparkhurst@> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > And doesn't the government subsidize public television? I
> >> > > > don't
> >> > > think the government subsidizes any conservative radio or t.v.
> >> > > And
> >> > > speaking of t.v. - most of the news stations (except Fox) are
> >> > > moderate or liberal. So between t.v. and radio, the American
> >> > > people
> >> > > have a choice of conservative, moderate and liberal shows to
> >> > > listen
> >> > > to or watch. If a person doesn't like the politics of one show,
> >> > > that is what the change the station or change the channel
> >> > > button is
> >> > > for. There is plenty of news out there from all sides. And
that
> >> > > is
> >> > > how it should be. Silencing conservative talk radio is
> >> > > censorship
> >> > > and why would any libertarian want censorship?
> >> > > > Marge
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From: Glenn Rapp
> >> > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:18 AM
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Fwd: Cunningham Calls for
> >> > > > Media
> >> > > Summit
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Am I mistaken or does the government not subsidize National
> >> > > Public Radio already...........
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Eric:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It's the listening audience that these men attract which is
> >> > > really
> >> > > > pulling the strings, by buying the products that advertisers
> >> > > hawk
> >> > > > during the commercial breaks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If there were a shortage of RF spectrum that the government
> >> > > > was
> >> > > > preventing opposing viewpoints from having access to, you may
> >> > > have a
> >> > > > point. But this is not happening. There is no conservative
> >> > > > "monopoly" on talk radio. How could it ever be enforced?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Exhibit A: "Air America" tried and spectacularly failed.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -Derek
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>,
> >> > "ERIC" <lincolnproducts@>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > ---
> >
Inlibertarianrepublicans@yahoogroups.com<Inlibertarianrepublicans%40yahoogroups.com>,