Cunningham Calls for Media Summit

Dear Marcy,

Yours is a fascinating, first-hand report, all too brief!

I would love to have an event with you speaking about what you experienced then--your memories, your feelings, the Govt, the press, the conditions as they changed around you, the variety of reactions of others.

Perhaps we could do it as an agenda item, over a meal, etc.?

Warm regards, Michael

Dear Marcy;

Yes it would be fascinating. We have all read
second hand accounts of the days of Evita
but you lived Evita.

The talk could be titled:

The Long March Revolutionary Autobiography
of Marcy X - Who Has A Dream That One Day...

Then from the book you write a movie could be
made with Angelina Jolie as yourself and Brad
Pitt as Bart. :slight_smile:

Ron Getty - SF Libertarian
Hostis res Publica
Morte ai Tiranni
Dum Spiro, Pugno

Dear Michael,

Thank you for your interest in the "expatriate" experience! Don't get
me started, or I would end up ranting about this subject all the time!
However, I feel that talking about it to my fellow libertarians is
preaching to the converted. So your suggestion gave me another idea:
how about fashioning on our LPSF website a column where folks like me
could tell of their first hand experiences with socialism or fascism
as related to some aspect of San Francisco politics. Just a thought.

Marcy

Dear Marcy,

Yours is a fascinating, first-hand report, all too brief!

I would love to have an event with you speaking about what you
experienced then--your memories, your feelings, the Govt, the press,
the conditions as they changed around you, the variety of reactions of
others.

Perhaps we could do it as an agenda item, over a meal, etc.?

Warm regards, Michael

From: "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@...>
To: <lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:51 PM
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Fwd: Cunningham Calls for Media Summit

> Yep. I can vouch for the Argentine comparison. I was raised there
> during Peron's last stand (oy, that was such a looong time ago!).
> And
> The People loved the pair (especially the unbelievable
> Evita/Madonna),
> and loved the freebies, until it all came crashing down about their
> heads and shoulders. Nobody seemed to remember as the spiral took
> everyone down that in the old days there was healthy debate in the
> press (La Prensa got mowed down first thing), allowing for insight
> into what may have been going on. Have you supported YOUR favorite
> news outlet lately?
>
> Marcy
>
>>
>> And you are correct in saying this is far from
>> perfect...........and in
>> saying to you touch on another thousand relevant topics
>>
>> but my point is this
>>
>> neither Eric nor Nobama should be the magic bureaucrat
>>
>> I heard an analogy today that I liked
>>
>> Argentina in the 20's was wealthy and powerful until Juan Peron and
> Madonna
>> took power, and spend billions of stolen dollars on populist causes
>> and
>> power grabs................in a decade the country was broke and
>> has
> never
>> recovered
>>
>> the Nobama of the 20's
>>
>>
>> > Under our present order the bureaucrat who decides is the
>> > investment
>> > bankers who have bankrolled Murdoch with counterfeit fractional
>> > reserve money for decades. The insiders got easy access to the
>> > easy
>> > money. Murdoch was the ultimate media insider. A competitive free
>> > market financial system may not have have helped to concetrate
>> > power
>> > in so few hands.
>> >
>> > > Sooooo
>> > >
>> > > Eric, who is the magic bureaucrat who gets to decide what is
>> > > fair,
>> > > what exactly accountability means..?
>> > >
>> > > You..? Nobama....?
>> > >
>> > > Get a Grip...
>> > >
>> > > Marge:
>> > >
>> > > No one is suggesting censorship, but accountability is what is
>> > > needed. Newscorp, for example, owns outright 40% of the media
>> > > (and
>> > > has interests in others. It's not even an American-owned
>> > > company.
>> > >
>> > > Most of these media outlets are not providing information,
>> > > they're
>> > > pushing propaganda and damaging people, industries, and causes
>> > > without consequences.
>> > >
>> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> > "r. m. parkhurst"
>> > > <rmparkhurst@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > And doesn't the government subsidize public television? I
>> > > > don't
>> > > think the government subsidizes any conservative radio or t.v.
>> > > And
>> > > speaking of t.v. - most of the news stations (except Fox) are
>> > > moderate or liberal. So between t.v. and radio, the American
>> > > people
>> > > have a choice of conservative, moderate and liberal shows to
>> > > listen
>> > > to or watch. If a person doesn't like the politics of one show,
>> > > that is what the change the station or change the channel
>> > > button is
>> > > for. There is plenty of news out there from all sides. And that
>> > > is
>> > > how it should be. Silencing conservative talk radio is
>> > > censorship
>> > > and why would any libertarian want censorship?
>> > > > Marge
>> > > >
>> > > > From: Glenn Rapp
>> > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:18 AM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Fwd: Cunningham Calls for
>> > > > Media
>> > > Summit
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Am I mistaken or does the government not subsidize National
>> > > Public Radio already...........
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Eric:
>> > > >
>> > > > It's the listening audience that these men attract which is
>> > > really
>> > > > pulling the strings, by buying the products that advertisers
>> > > hawk
>> > > > during the commercial breaks.
>> > > >
>> > > > If there were a shortage of RF spectrum that the government
>> > > > was
>> > > > preventing opposing viewpoints from having access to, you may
>> > > have a
>> > > > point. But this is not happening. There is no conservative
>> > > > "monopoly" on talk radio. How could it ever be enforced?
>> > > >
>> > > > Exhibit A: "Air America" tried and spectacularly failed.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Derek
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> > "ERIC" <lincolnproducts@>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ---
>

Inlibertarianrepublicans@yahoogroups.com<Inlibertarianrepublicans%40yahoogroups.com>,

Dear Ron,

Wow, I can already see my name in lights. But the story has already
been told in "Evita." The musical pretty well captured the
mesmerizing power of Juan and Evita. Well, I will work on my proposal
about a website column, nevertheless. BTW Bart was not there! I was
a young teen when all this happened : - )

Marcy

Dear Marcy;

Yes it would be fascinating. We have all read
second hand accounts of the days of Evita
but you lived Evita.

The talk could be titled:

The Long March Revolutionary Autobiography
of Marcy X - Who Has A Dream That One Day...

Then from the book you write a movie could be
made with Angelina Jolie as yourself and Brad
Pitt as Bart. :slight_smile:

Ron Getty - SF Libertarian
Hostis res Publica
Morte ai Tiranni
Dum Spiro, Pugno

________________________________
From: "dredelstein@..." <dredelstein@...>
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:43:53 AM
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Fwd: Cunningham Calls for Media Summit

Dear Marcy,

Yours is a fascinating, first-hand report, all too brief!

I would love to have an event with you speaking about what you
experienced then--your memories, your feelings, the Govt, the press,
the conditions as they changed around you, the variety of reactions of
others.

Perhaps we could do it as an agenda item, over a meal, etc.?

Warm regards, Michael

From: "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@...>
To: <lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:51 PM
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Fwd: Cunningham Calls for Media Summit

> Yep. I can vouch for the Argentine comparison. I was raised there
> during Peron's last stand (oy, that was such a looong time ago!).
> And
> The People loved the pair (especially the unbelievable
> Evita/Madonna),
> and loved the freebies, until it all came crashing down about their
> heads and shoulders. Nobody seemed to remember as the spiral took
> everyone down that in the old days there was healthy debate in the
> press (La Prensa got mowed down first thing), allowing for insight
> into what may have been going on. Have you supported YOUR favorite
> news outlet lately?
>
> Marcy
>
>>
>> And you are correct in saying this is far from
>> perfect...........and in
>> saying to you touch on another thousand relevant topics
>>
>> but my point is this
>>
>> neither Eric nor Nobama should be the magic bureaucrat
>>
>> I heard an analogy today that I liked
>>
>> Argentina in the 20's was wealthy and powerful until Juan Peron and
> Madonna
>> took power, and spend billions of stolen dollars on populist causes
>> and
>> power grabs................in a decade the country was broke and
>> has
> never
>> recovered
>>
>> the Nobama of the 20's
>>
>>
>> > Under our present order the bureaucrat who decides is the
>> > investment
>> > bankers who have bankrolled Murdoch with counterfeit fractional
>> > reserve money for decades. The insiders got easy access to the
>> > easy
>> > money. Murdoch was the ultimate media insider. A competitive free
>> > market financial system may not have have helped to concetrate
>> > power
>> > in so few hands.
>> >
>> > > Sooooo
>> > >
>> > > Eric, who is the magic bureaucrat who gets to decide what is
>> > > fair,
>> > > what exactly accountability means..?
>> > >
>> > > You..? Nobama....?
>> > >
>> > > Get a Grip...
>> > >
>> > > Marge:
>> > >
>> > > No one is suggesting censorship, but accountability is what is
>> > > needed. Newscorp, for example, owns outright 40% of the media
>> > > (and
>> > > has interests in others. It's not even an American-owned
>> > > company.
>> > >
>> > > Most of these media outlets are not providing information,
>> > > they're
>> > > pushing propaganda and damaging people, industries, and causes
>> > > without consequences.
>> > >
>> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> > "r. m. parkhurst"
>> > > <rmparkhurst@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > And doesn't the government subsidize public television? I
>> > > > don't
>> > > think the government subsidizes any conservative radio or t.v.
>> > > And
>> > > speaking of t.v. - most of the news stations (except Fox) are
>> > > moderate or liberal. So between t.v. and radio, the American
>> > > people
>> > > have a choice of conservative, moderate and liberal shows to
>> > > listen
>> > > to or watch. If a person doesn't like the politics of one show,
>> > > that is what the change the station or change the channel
>> > > button is
>> > > for. There is plenty of news out there from all sides. And that
>> > > is
>> > > how it should be. Silencing conservative talk radio is
>> > > censorship
>> > > and why would any libertarian want censorship?
>> > > > Marge
>> > > >
>> > > > From: Glenn Rapp
>> > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 8:18 AM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Fwd: Cunningham Calls for
>> > > > Media
>> > > Summit
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Am I mistaken or does the government not subsidize National
>> > > Public Radio already...........
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Eric:
>> > > >
>> > > > It's the listening audience that these men attract which is
>> > > really
>> > > > pulling the strings, by buying the products that advertisers
>> > > hawk
>> > > > during the commercial breaks.
>> > > >
>> > > > If there were a shortage of RF spectrum that the government
>> > > > was
>> > > > preventing opposing viewpoints from having access to, you may
>> > > have a
>> > > > point. But this is not happening. There is no conservative
>> > > > "monopoly" on talk radio. How could it ever be enforced?
>> > > >
>> > > > Exhibit A: "Air America" tried and spectacularly failed.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Derek
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> > "ERIC" <lincolnproducts@>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ---
>

Inlibertarianrepublicans@yahoogroups.com<Inlibertarianrepublicans%40yahoogroups.com>,