Anti-occupation rally Saturday

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Kelly,

  How about "Free Iraq!"? Or if you want to be provocative: "Gun Control
& State Run Medicine Don't Work In Iraq, Either -- Stop Exporting
American Socialism!" 8)

Yours in liberty,
              <<< Starchild >>>

Mike,

Good point. I hadn't thought of that reason for changing the slogan,
but
I had already decided to either use another slogan or change it to
"Another Libertarian Against Imperialism" because I didn't want to
imply
that the people around me agreed with that view of the situation. Since
using the word "Imperialism" seems to be controversial, I'm trying to
think of a better slogan. Any suggestions? (I'm not fond of "No War"
because this rally is about the occupation, although I guess the
occupation could be seen as a continuation of the war.)

I have two objections to using the plain LP banner: (1) Some (perhaps
many) of our members don't want the LP to be associated with ANSWER,
and
our contingent will not be officially authorized to represent the LP.
(2) When I see signs at these rallies with only the name of a political
organization or a political candidate, I feel that they are trying to
capitalize on the rally. The signs aren't supposed to be a way of
influencing people at the rally. They are supposed to be a way of
influencing people watching the rally about the subject of the rally.
However, I'm OK with holding a Denny for Mayor sign as long as it is
only a part of a sign with a slogan appropriate for the rally, and I
would like for people at the rally to see that there are libertarians
who oppose war and occupation. Maybe the fact that the Denny posters
have "Libertarian" written on them means that the added text doesn't
need to include the "L" word. Maybe I'll just echo the theme of the
rally: "Bring the Troops Home Now!"

I guess you saw Mike's message that the meeting place will be at the
steps on the Polk Street side of City Hall, between 11 a.m. and noon.
I'll bring some posterboard, scissors, a marker, and a stapler.

Kelly

Subject: RE: [lpsf-discuss] Anti-occupation rally Saturday
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:48:18 -0700
From: Acree, Michael <acreem@ocim.ucsf.edu>
Reply-To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
To: 'lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com' <lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com>

I'll be there, too--City Hall steps, _Polk Street side_, I assume?

I would personally object to a sign that said "Libertarians Against
Imperialism," for the same reason I would object to a sign that said
"Libertarians Against Big Government." It implies that we are a
splinter group, and that many libertarians favor big government, or
imperialism. I think the plain LP banner would be best, and I'd be
happy to hold it high. I have no objection, I hasten to add, to Mike
Denny's slogan "No War," added to either the banner or his campaign
signs or banner (which I would also be happy to carry).

From: Kelly Simpson [mailto:KellySimpson@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:42 PM
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Anti-occupation rally Saturday

There will be a "Bring the Troops Home Now!" rally on Saturday,
October 25:

11 a.m. Gather Civic Center (Grove and Larkin, Civic Center BART)
12 noon March
1 p.m. Rally at Jefferson Square Park

A concurrent demonstration will be held in Washington, DC.

See www.actionsf.org for details.

As usual, the rally is being organized by socialists, but in my
opinion,
these rallies do more good than harm, so I plan to attend.

I question whether the plain LP banner would be appropriate, but a
"Libertarians Against Imperialism" sign might be.

Is anyone willing to make such a sign and arrange a meeting place for
libertarians? (I have some tall sticks but no blank posterboard and no
time to buy any.)

Kelly

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