Anti-occupation rally Saturday

In a message dated 10/22/03 8:44:29 PM, KellySimpson@... writes:

<< I question whether the plain LP banner would be appropriate, but a
"Libertarians Against Imperialism" sign might be. >>

Kelly, why don't you put, "Libertarians for terror.. As long as it's not on
our soil" on that sign? ¿Imperialism? Give me and our party a break. It's much
to soon to argue that. Do you recommend we cut and run?

Live free or die, Michael S.

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From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):

Imperialism \Im*pe"ri*al*ism\, n.
    The policy, practice, or advocacy of seeking, or acquiescing
    in, the extension of the control, dominion, or empire of a
    nation, as by the acquirement of new, esp. distant, territory
    or dependencies, or by the closer union of parts more or less
    independent of each other for operations of war, copyright,
    internal commerce, etc.

Does "The practice of seeking... the extension of the control of a nation... by the acquirement of new, esp. distant, territory" not fit the current situation? Have we not taken control of a distant territory?

-- Steve

Steve, I think permanence is implied in that definition you found. For
instance, are Germany and Japan imperial holdings of the United States, even
though the U.S. "controlled" them as distant territories for years after World
War II?

Hey, let's talk about that tonight at the (trumpets and drums)...

San Francisco Libertarian Political Chat

The Chat is at Siam Thai, at 7 PM, in the Renaissance Parc 55
Hotel, off Market and 5th St. There is also a direct entrance on

See you all then!

I agree for the most part. But it remains to be seen:
1. if we will be there "permanently"
2. whether Iraqi's will be self ruled or ruled by a US backed puppet regime

And the US seems to be avoiding any commitments requested by the rest of the world to ensure that these two things do not happen. Given that, and the US's long history of foreign intervention (which did directly support French imperialism in the case of Vietnam) I think it's fair to say that, on the face of it, the US actions do appear to be imperialist in nature.

-- Steve